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		Benton Jackson also modified his Roswell Flyer. He learned to fly and hover well enough that he bought an electric helicopter. Click HERE to see more about his bird.
Ahmet Onat's Keyence Gyrosaucer. More Here.		"Am I satisfied with it? Yes and no. It needs constant maintenance (last time it came too close to my curtains, shaved off a prop, fell 1.5m (5feet) and broke off two arms...). On the other hand, the mechanics are very strong. No problems at all with the gyros/electronics. And it is easy to repair the foam body. Do I recommend it? YES! It is a very interesting piece of machinery! I don't think you can learn helicopters on it though..."

Flyer modified by Dr. Walt Roetinger. He added some balsa/carbon fiber strips to stiffen and strengthen the frame. Pictures from the AFOT site (see below). The good doctor lives in Rhode Island, but no other info is available.
		Mark Johnson flying his Flyer in his hobby shop - Hobby Mart in Roseville, Minnesota. More Info / Pics.

Keith Kuhn
The frame is made from .125" carbon fiber spars and the cross-braces are .070" rods. The "T" fittings are 3/16 automotive vacuum line connectors. Landing gear is four 1.5" styrofoam balls. Main arms are 17" measured from prop shaft to prop shaft. I fly a lot in high grass so I made the landing gear/battery area 3.5" tall.	To speed up assembly I cut the motor mount/prop shaft housing from the old frame where the wood ends, drilled a straight guide hole in the foam and epoxied the CF rod in. For the electronics section, I cut the top disk off the old frame and glued it to the CF frame. I built the whole thing with 5 minute epoxy.	I'm still not too good at flying but at least now when I land hard the most damage is to the sacrificial styrofoam balls (chewing gum holds them on great) or an occasional cross-brace breaks the glue joint where it attaches to the wood motor mount. I haven't had it flip on me yet but the CF arch described by you looks like a very good idea and I will be adding one in the near future.
Keyence - a large and sophisticated Japanese manufacturer that also dabbles in neat toys. (click on "RC Saucer" on the Keyence page) Keyence saucers use less reliable mechanical gyros and are available on Japan-only frequencies, but you may get some some good kit-bashing inspiration for your Flyer.